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Monday, January 10, 2022

Santi Standing Posture Practice

From Wu Dianke, Xingyi quanshu daquan, 55-62

[Translated by Josh C.]


The Xingyiquan practice of training the Santi posture is based on the boxing principles of Xingyiquan and the basic characteristics and requirements of the Xingyi boxing method.  It is a standing posture that is formed through the integration of the movements of the three segments of the human body (the torso, upper limbs, and lower limbs).  When this practice is performed over a long time, the qi concentrated within the dantian will form into a round object (团状物), which will become larger as you practice more and more.  Such qi within the dantian can be emitted throughout the entire body according to your intention, becoming the source of the body’s power.  At the same time, with this standing posture you can also train so that the “body is as stable as a wooden post.”  You stand for a long time like a nail driven into wood, which is described in the boxing manual as “standing like a nail.”  Li Feiyu [aka Li Luoneng] referred to the Santi posture training as the “basic training of Xingyi.”

The Xingyi standing posture training was known as the “Ziwu posture” at the time that Xinyiquan was created, and was also known as the “Three Powers posture.”  In the name “Ziwu posture,” zi refers to the midnight hour, and is yin, while wu refers to the noontime hour, which is yang.  It is easiest to open up the heavenly cycles [within the body] if you practice at these two times.  Also, wu is fire and the south, while zi is water and the north.  When doing standing posture practice, facing south corresponds to wu, while turning your back to the north corresponds to zi, and you should think of it as being like fire and water clashing together.  These are the reasons why it was called “Ziwu posture.”

“Three Powers posture” is named after the Three Powers of heaven, earth, and humanity.  The idea is to express the notions of vastness, profundity, majestic power, and nimble movement.  In training, you must take the six harmonies as the basic method and the four images as the root.  You move your hands like an eagle catching its prey, and you initiate your moves like a tiger holding its head.  This stance represents Ji Jike’s aspiration to overthrow the Qing and restore the Ming.  In “eagle catching,” you stand tall and look down, which represents capturing the Central Plains.  You first step out with the left foot, which means that as your foot stands within the central gate and occupies that territory, this symbolizes that the Central Plain must be captured.  As for “tiger holding its head,” in this posture the left hand clasps a fist in the yin position in front of the heart, which is hidden below the right palm grasping like a claw in the yin position, just like a tiger hiding in ambush.  The right palm is like a tiger’s claw held protectively, hiding so as not to be exposed, which secretly represents the idea that those who aspire to overthrow the Qing must conceal themselves and wait for the right opportunity.  The verse formula says, “The tiger shelters deep in the mountains, concealed in its cave / Holding its head, hiding its body, not exposing itself.  It waits until the day when its ambitions will be fulfilled / When it will fiercely pounce on its prey and stride through the mountain forests.”

The method of training the Ziwu posture can be broken into two steps.  The first step is the Monkey Posture (also called “Squatting Monkey Stance”), which trains the qi within the dantian.  It is also called “Squatting Dantian.”  The second step is called “Shooting the Dantian,” where the left foot steps forward and the dantian power is released with a thunderous sound.  The great Xinyiquan masters Dai Longbang and Dai Erlu placed great emphasis on dantian training.  Therefore, in the Dai Family Boxing Manual it says, “Essence nourishes the numinous root, qi nourishes the spirit / When the original qi is not lost, you have attained its perfection / When the dantian is trained, you possess the treasury of long life / Do not give it to others, even for ten thousand gold.”

When Dai Erlu’s disciple Li Feiyu decided to adopt the name “Xingyiquan,” he accordingly made changes to the method of practicing the Ziwu posture.  He observed that the stance used in the old Xinyi posture training involved the three segments of the body - the torso, the upper limbs, and the lower limbs - clearly demonstrating the “external three harmonies.”  These three segments are coordinated into a single unit, in which each segment has its own particular requirements, but they are all connected together, embodying the basic features of Xingyi (“form and intention”).  Thus, he called the Xingyi posture training practice “Santi [threefold body] posture training.”  For the footwork aspect, he was inspired by the steps used by the silver-smelting workers at the Taigu Yuanshunchang [?] when they would cut [silver] ingots, so at first he called it the “Sitting Silver Scissors Stance” and later he changed it to the “Xingyi Half Horse Stance.”

The Xingyiquan Santi standing posture practice takes the training method of “Squatting Dantian” and combines it with the opening posture used in the Five Elements, Twelve Animals, single technique practice, paired practice, free sparring, and so forth, to form a method of standing posture practice that not both possesses the characteristics of traditional internal training as well as new content.  As the verse formula says, “The single standing posture of Santi can be divided according to the four images / The lower section is “chicken legs,” the middle section is “dragon body” / “Bear shoulders” and “monkey appearance” are found in the upper body / In Xingyiquan, this is the root. / When first moving the hands, it is “eagle catching” and “tiger embraces the head” / When the body completely possesses these six forms, the implications are profound.”

In the late nineteenth century, Che Yizhai and his top student Lu Fuzhen saw that the meaning of “tiger embraces the head” had been lost over generations of change.  Moreover, after repeated testing and application through the practice of free fighting, they felt that the opening move of “tiger embraces the head” was not suitable, so they changed it to “tiger pouncing.”  In the early Republican years, Sun Lutang was the first to begin talking about combining the three boxing styles of Xingyi, Bagua, and Taiji.  He subsequently utilized the Taiji theory of “Wuji, Taiji, Liangyi” to explain the Santi standing posture.  Since then, many practitioners of Hebei style Xingyi have followed this method of explaining the Santi posture training.

The Santi posture training practice of Xingyiquan has undergone unceasing development and innovation by many generations of great Xingyi masters.  Having developed down to the present day, its theory has become even more complete and its posture has become even more scientific.  Xingyi practitioners believe that this is one of the best forms of standing posture practice for training movement out of stillness.  If you stand in this posture for a long time, you will be able to strengthen both inner and outer, and achieve the result of a “body as stable as a wooden post.”  When you add in the fact that it is the opening and closing posture for all the various Xingyi forms and free fighting exercises, it is said to have the wondrous application of “a single posture fulfills three purposes.”


  1. Function


To practice standing in the Santi posture, you must clear away your scattered thoughts and focus your awareness.  Your qi should nourish the dantian, your original qi should become full and penetrate the du and ren [channels], so as to strengthen your internal organs.  Be relaxed above and solid below, coordinate your torso and four limbs into a single unit, completely integrate above and below into a single unified body, and increase your endurance and control of your muscles and tendons, so as to strengthen your body.  When standing in this posture, your mind, intention, qi, and strength must be unified as one.  When yin and yang combine with each other and outer and inner harmonize as one, you can also train your willpower, mold your character, and increase your responsive capabilities for fighting.

The special features of Xingyi’s Santi standing posture are that “the center of gravity is stable and firm, and exposed openings are minimized.”  Therefore, practicing Santi posture training for a long time, you will be able to “stand like a nail, and move like the wind,” so that your advancing and retreating are swift and agile, your transformations are nimble and lively, and you arrive [at your target] as soon as you move.  This standing posture training is beneficial for attack and defense, and is especially helpful for developing the aggressive fighting style that is the specialty of Xingyiquan.  Past masters said that “with long practice you will naturally develop an indestructible body / With all diseases removed you will be like a child / If you wish to achieve wondrous skill in fighting / You must train well in the standing posture practice.”  This is a well-known saying.


  1. Method of Practice

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[Not translated]


  1. Verse Formula


With essence and qi combined as one, you must concentrate your spirit.

The focused gaze of your two eyes surpasses that of the monkey or eagle.

Press up with the head, straighten the neck, and slightly tuck the chin.

Close the mouth, clamp the teeth, and press your tongue up against the palate.

Close your chest, fill your belly, and sink your qi downward.

Round your back, straighten your waist, and fill your body with strength.

Raise your perineum, sink your pelvis, and tightly close your crotch.

The front leg is bent at the knee and the back leg is braced for support.

Your front foot seems straight but is not entirely straight,

Your back foot seems horizontal but is not actually horizontal.

Your feet are two foot-lengths’ distance apart.

Bring the knees together, clamp the feet, and hold your stance firmly and stably.

Let the shoulders fall, drop the elbows, and sink your wrists.

Your right arm is bent at the elbow so that it sticks closely by your ribs.

The palms and soles of the feet are hollow 扣 and your fingers and toes extended.

Your left palm is like the claw of an eagle.

The five fingers are a little bit separated and very slightly bent.

The thumb must press outward.

The left palm is extended forward but the index finger sticks up.

Focus your eyes on the index finger without relaxing.

The three points - your fingers, nose, and tip of your foot - are facing the same way.

Your right hand in the eagle catching posture is held at the level of your navel.

Your body does not lean forward or tilt backward.

It looks straight but seems angled, looks angled but seems straight.

How high or low you hold your stance is different for each person.

When the qi gathers in the dantian then you have attained perfection.

The six forms combine into one posture containing both yin and yang.

The mutual harmony of inner and outer is the root of Xingyi.


  1. The Method of Six Forms Combined Into One

To train in the Xingyiquan Santi standing posture, you must abide by the method of “six forms combined into one.”  Six forms combined into one is described in the boxing manual as “chicken legs, dragon body, bear shoulders, monkey appearance, moving the hands like an eagle catching, initiating moves like a tiger holding its head.”  During the Guangxu era (late 19th C.), Che Yizhai changed “initiating moves like a tiger holding its head” to “initiating moves like a tiger pouncing.”  During the Republican era, they also started using the initial posture of “drilling fist” followed by “chopping fist,” as well as the “water-carrying posture,” which is based on Southern Shaolin.  The use of the “thunder sound” during the initial posture is a special feature of Hebei Xingyi.


  1. Chicken legs

This imitates the form of the chicken, whose two legs are tightly closed together, seem bent but are not really bent, and seem straight but are not really straight.  This method of movement allows you to advance and retreat in a nimble and lively manner, and extend and withdraw freely.  When you step out your lower legs rub together, your knees are clamped together and your crotch closed.  This method is reliable for preventing the enemy from entering through the middle gate.  The verse formula goes:

The two legs seem bent but are not bowed.

The two knees clamp tightly to close off the middle gate.

Rubbing the lower legs when stepping out guards against the unexpected.

This is the root of the various leg methods.


  1. Dragon body

This imitates the form of the dragon, whose special features are that its waist turns and twists nimbly, it swallows and spits freely, and transforms unexpectedly.  When attacking, you leap and rise up, and when defending you hide your body and sink down. Seizing and striking, stamping and leaping while lifting up - nothing surpasses the fierce majesty of this method. The verse formula goes:

Advancing, retreating, turning back, and leaning - they all depend on this body method,

Traversing vertically and horizontally, leaping and soaring as one pleases.

Swallowing and spitting, quickly advancing and retreating, moving with the posture,

Its myriad changes and transformations make its potential clear.


  1. Bear shoulders

This imitates how the bear hollows its chest and rounds its back, sinks its shoulders and drops its elbows, hugging and wrapping tightly. This postural method can leave the opponent with no opportunity to take advantage of, while I am able to respond and change nimbly and issue punches rapidly. The verse formula goes:

With the back round and the chest hollowed, the qi can sink downward.

The two shoulders sink down and the elbows protect the body.

Hugging and wrapping tightly depend only upon this.

Issuing punches and transforming responsively are fast and nimble.


  1. Monkey appearance

This imitates how the monkey’s eyes are fast and sharp and it is full of spirit, waiting for its opportunity to advance and attack and transforming with wondrous speed. When attacking you arrive in the blink of an eye, and when retreating even your shadow cannot be seen. The verse formula goes:

The two eyes are fast and sharp, like a monkey’s stare -

The boxing classics say that this is the first step.

Investigating and examining all options, to prepare for the unexpected,

Externally you display your essence, qi, and spirit.


  1. Eagle grasping

This imitates the eagle’s capacity for hunting and capturing its prey. Joint locks and grappling all rely upon this method. The manual mentions “When first moving the hands, it is ‘eagle catching’” and “there can be no grabbing without the ‘eagle catching.’” The verse formula goes:

Floating about like the dust on the wind, with no complaints,

Flying in the heavens - you should try to learn from the eagle.

Surveying the broad earth, it captures the wily rabbit,

Then, its work done, it flies off to enjoy its meal contentedly.


  1. Tiger pouncing

This imitates the mightof the fierce tiger coming out of its cave and its bravery in pouncing on its prey. As soon as a hand technique is issued, it is like a fierce tiger pouncing on its food. When attacking, both palms strike forth together, or you can also advance with a single palm, grabbing and striking them. When retreating, the two palms protect the chest, using defense as an attack. The verse formula says:

The tiger dwells in the deep mountains, hiding in its cave,

Its body low as it leaves its lair, it displays its might.

Striking with two palms together or a single palm,

Like a tiger pouncing on its food, you charge ahead.


V. Essentials

  1. Refining the elixir, moving the qi

The inner dantian training (dantian neigong) is where the essence of Xingyiquan resides. To practice Xingyiquan, you must first become skilled at the inner dantian training. Inner training comes from the perfected qi. When you have developed inner training well, you can circulate the perfected qi throughout the entire body. This is the meaning of the saying, “Qigong is the essence of wushu, wushu is the application of qigong.” After the great Xingyiquan master Li Feiyu modified the Santi standing practice, he called training the dantian and moving the qi “refining essence to transform into qi” and made this the very first step for beginners practicing Xingyiquan. The second step is “refining qi to transform into spirit,” and the third step is “refining spirit to return to emptiness.” These three steps are based on the Santi standing practice, in which you use your intention to direct the qi, completing these steps progressively by leading and guiding the qi.

Che Yizhai inherited, developed, and perfected the dantian training methods of the Dai family and Li Feiyu, turning the Santi standing practice into the essential practice in which “a single posture fulfills three purposes.” When standing in this posture, you must conform to the requirements and theory of dantian training, using them to regulate your movements. The boxing classic says, “First inhale, then exhale, one entering, one exiting. First raise up, then bring down, one rise, one fall. Inwardly gather the dantian, the resting place of the qi. Breathing in and exhaling out, do not make any sound.” It also says, “Raise the qi from the Tortoise Tail [Guiwei, GV-1, on the tailbone below the Mingmen], refine the qi in the dantian, let the qi descend into the ocean [Qihai], collecting its radiance within the Heart of Heaven [=Qihai, dantian]”; “With Ren in front and Du behind, the movements of the qi should flow continuously,” and so forth. All such statements refer to the basic principles of the inner dantian training. Inner training in Xingyi is also known as “refining the elixir,” which is a term borrowed from Daoist inner alchemy. When you have trained well in Xingyi’s inner training, you will be able to circulate the perfected qi throughout the entire body. What is known as “moving the qi” is being able to circulate the qi according to your intention, which is the culmination of the dantian training. When you practice this for a long time, you will naturally be able to develop unfathomable spiritual transcendence.


  1. Center of gravity, posture

The Xingyiquan Santi standing practice that was transmitted by Che Yizhai emphasizes allowing the center of gravity to fall between the two legs, maintaining the posture of “double center of gravity,” which indicates the stability of the body during training. The past masters said that we should be “stable and unmoving as Mt. Tai.” When crossing hands with others, the center of gravity must move according to the posture. If it is convenient to have a single center of gravity then you maintain a single center of gravity. If it is convenient to have a double center then you maintain a double center. If it is convenient to be front-weighted then your center of gravity is in front. If it is convenient to be back-weighted then your center of gravity is in the back. “Single” or “double” center of gravity does not just refer to the body’s center of gravity. Rather, the head, hands, feet, large and small joints, all the four limbs and hundred bones have their own divisions of single or double center of gravity. They must all change depending upon the posture and transform according to the situation. Whether the stance is high or low is not fixed but rather depends on the individual - if it needs to be high then you are high, if it needs to be low then you are low. The stance is nimble and practical for fighting.


  1. Attack and defense

Xingyiquan has the unique characteristic of “taking defense as its skill.” Therefore when standing in Santi, you must follow the requirements of “Putting the hand forward to guard the upper level, concealing the palm in front of the abdomen to protect the middle level, and wrapping the hips and clamping the knees to close the middle gate so as to guard the crotch tightly.” If you follow these requirements then you can attack from a defensive posture and maintain defense even when attacking. When you are attending simultaneously to attack and defense, you will certainly prevail when you encounter an opponent.

Thursday, December 12, 2013

Hunyuan power

The other day, I was reading an article on Song style Xingyiquan in the February 2008 issue of 武當 (Wudang) magazine and came across an interesting quotation.  It's from Song Guanghua, who (if I'm not mistaken) is the current Song family lineage holder.  It was interesting to me because he uses the term 六和渾圓整力 (six harmonies hunyuan complete power), which brought to mind the 渾圓一氣功 (hunyuan one qi) that Li Tailiang had talked about recently in a class at his school in Long Island.

The quote is: 

内外相合,
Inside and outside in harmony,

上 下互撑,
Top and bottom mutual support each other,

左右争衡,
Left and right side strive for supremacy

前后互为作 用,
Front and back are used in application,

全身整体配合,
Whole body completely coordinated,

先松 后 紧,
First loose (song) then tight,

紧而 速松,
Tight then quickly loose (song),

随松随紧的六 合浑 圆整劲
The looseness and tightness of six harmonies hun yuan power

Friday, July 1, 2011

Yang Fansheng 杨凡生 vids

One of my gongfu brothers just posted a series of videos from his last trip to China. They feature Yang Fansheng 杨凡生 demonstrating a variety of techniques and principles on him. You can find them below in his youtube channel (labelled Xinyidao 12 - 20).



Wednesday, June 29, 2011

Wang Yinghai 王映海 in Beijing

Wang Yinghai 王映海 and his grandson, Wang Xicheng 王喜成, gave a public lecture at the University of International Business and Economics in Beijing on June 24th. Poking around the forums at wushuweb.com, I found a bunch of posts with pics and vids from their visit.

This post has some pics of Wang having dinner and meeting with someone before the lecture.

This post has some pics from the lecture itself. The famous Baguazhang historian Kang Gewu 康戈武 introduces them.
This post has a vid of Wang Yinghai demonstrating indoors.

This post has a vid of Wang Xicheng demonstrating indoors.

This post has a vid of Wang Xicheng performing piquan 劈拳 outside.

This post has a vid of Wang Xicheng performing the siba 四把 routine outside.

Wednesday, June 15, 2011

Dai style demos

According to Jon Dyer (daixinyi.blogspot.com), these are demos from Yue Guining's 岳貴寧 100th birthday celebration. Yue (also known as Yue Yunzhong 岳蘊忠) was one of Dai Kui's 戴奎 disciples.


The last vid appears to be Yue Guining's son, Yue Jianzu 岳建祖. The description on the original Youku video says it was filmed in 08 (or at least the last half of it was).

There are some interesting variations in the demos, and the videos provide an interesting look at how Dai style is being practiced in China today.

Monday, October 18, 2010

Chinese articles on Dai style Xinyiquan

For those that can read chinese, there are some new articles on Dai style folks over at wushuweb.com


For those of you that can't read chinese, the last two links have pics.

Friday, January 22, 2010

More vids

Video of Gao Baodong 高宝东 (profiled earlier in this blog). Unfortunately, the 10min long clip apparently has no sound. He shows part of a spear form at the 4:24 mark:


Here's another video of him just performing a spear set. Note: this appears to be the same spear set that Li Tailiang 李泰良 teaches (with the variations you'd expect to see between different teachers):


Video of Wang Guolang 王国良, another disciple of Wang Yinghai 王映海, performing the Siba 四把 routine:

Friday, January 15, 2010

Vid clip of An Qibang 安启邦

An Qibang's lineage is Che Yizhai 车毅斋—> Liu Jian 刘俭—> Wu Zhitai 吴治泰, which makes him a gongfu cousin of Yang Fansheng 杨凡生.

In this clip, he demonstrates the Advancing-Retreating 進退連環 form, the Jixing Siba 雞形四把 form, the Zashichui 雜勢捶 form, and the 5 elements 五行拳.

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjEwOTMzNjA=.html

Monday, January 11, 2010

Video clips of Dai style Xinyiquan

I came across some video clips that practitioners in Wang Yinghai's 王映海 lineage might be interested in:

This is Wang Yi 王毅, the disciple of Wang Yinghai who wrote the Dai style weapons book: http://www.56.com/u17/v_NDM3MzgzMDI.html

This is Wang Xicheng 王喜成, Wang Yinghai's grandson. He's showing the basic squatting monkey and the 5 elements: http://www.56.com/u53/v_Mzc0OTM0MTA.html

This is Wang Xicheng performing the Dai style short staff: http://www.56.com/u26/v_Mzg2MjYzODM.html

This is Wang Yinghai himself performing Si Ba 四把 at 60 years of age: http://www.56.com/u13/v_Mzg5OTI5Nzg.html

This is Wang Yinghai performing the Three Fists 三拳 also at 60: http://www.56.com/u58/v_Mzg1OTMwNjM.html

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

Tian Ruwen: Disciple of Dai Kui

Wushuren.com has an interesting article on Tian Ruwen 田汝文, a disciple of Dai Kui 戴奎. The author of the article (who practices Xingyiquan, but doesn't specify which style or whom he learned from) says that he's never met anyone with such developed dantian power. He placed his hand on Master Tian's dantian and was knocked backward without Master Tian needing to take a step (only from the contraction and expansion of the dantian).

What I found interesting is that Tian is 71 this year, but Wang Yinghai is 84. Dai Kui passed away when Wang Yinghai was 25, so that means Tian was only 12 when Dai Kui died. Did Tian continue his training with someone else (perhaps his seniors)? Or did he manage to achieve such a high level by continuing on his own?

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Vids of Che & Dai style

Poking around on chinese wushu websites, I came across this profile on 56.com with vids of Wang Taichen 王太晨>. Apparently Wang has been practicing Che style since 1982 under Wang Buqing 王步青 (Che Yizhai 車毅齋 -> Lu Xuelong 呂學隆 -> Wang Buqing) and also became a disciple of Wang Yinghai (of Dai style fame) in 2003.

Saturday, October 10, 2009

3 Shanxi Masters - Part 2 - Gao Baodong

(2) Shanxi's Number One Spear - Gao Baodong 高宝东


Ji Jike 姬际可 was a master at applying the spear. He attained a high level in the art of the spear because xingyiquan and spear methods have a strong connection. In Shanxi, the birthplace of xingyiquan, Gao Baodong is known as "Shanxi's Number One Spear".


Gao Baodong was born in 1941 in Shanxi provence, Taigu County. He is currently a committee member of the Shanxi Xingyiquan Association as well as the vice president and secretary-general of the Taigu Wushu Association and the Taigu Xingyiquan Research Association.


In his youth, Gao Baodong studied xingyiquan with his father, Gao Qingying 高庆瑛 (1892 - 1979, a disciple of Liu Jian ). When he was 16, he was accepted as a disciple of Wu Zhitai 吴治泰 (also a disciple of Liu Jian). In 1959, he was accepted in to the Taiyuan City Youth Wushu School. His teachers included Pang Lintai 庞林太 and Li Guichang 李桂昌.


From 1981 to 1992, Gao Baodong won a series of awards in various competitions, including:


National Railroad Wushu Competition - 2nd prize

Shanxi Xingyiquan Competition - 1st prize

Shanxi 6th Worker's Games - 3rd and 4th place in spear competition

Shanxi Xingyiquan Competition - 1st prize in Weapons and Paired Practice

National Xingyiquan Competition - 1st prize


In 1986 and 1987, he also received 2nd prize in Shanxi Xingyiquan Research Papers.



(3) Shanxi Xingyiquan's Wisdom General - Cheng Suren 程素仁


[...to be continued...]
[edit: You can find video of Gao Baodong here]

Friday, October 9, 2009

3 Shanxi Masters - Part 1 - Yang Fansheng

Here's a translation of part 1 of an article I found online. The original can be found here (or was found there anyway) if you want to compare it to my clunky translation.

Three Masters of Shanxi Xingyiquan by Zhang Jing

Shanxi is the birthplace of xingyiquan and has produced many famous masters. This article will introduce 3 local masters - Yang Fansheng, Gao Baodong, and Cheng Suren. All are second generation disciples of Liu Jian (who was a closed door disciple of of Che Yizhai).

(1) Shanxi's "Little Overlord" - Yang Fansheng

Strong and vigorous, both eyes bright and piercing, and known as "Shanxi Little Overlord", Yang Fansheng left quite a deep impression on me. Cheng Suren praises him as having the highest level of xingyiquan.

Yang Fansheng obtained the first class award at the 1994 All China Xingyiquan Competition. He also placed top honors in the 1995 International Xingyiquan Competition. He is currently the president of the Shanxi Taigu Che Yizhai Association. All his life, he has been passing on the real skills of Xingyiquan. He has taught over a thousand people, with more than a hundred winning in All China martial art competitions and leitai matches.

-- First, thank you very much for agreeing to our interview. Please start with an introduction of your martial arts background.

Yang: I was born on August 28th, 1949 in Shanxi provence, Taigu county. I learned xingyiquan from Wu Lianfu (note: Wu Lianfu became a disciple of Liu Jian in 1930).

-- What's the difference between Hebei and Shanxi styles of xingyiquan?

Yang: There are some differences. Hebei xingyiquan has a larger frame. Shanxi Taigu xingyiquan's frame is smaller.

-- If I may ask, what are the special characteristics of Che style xingyiquan?

Yang: Powerful jin in fighting, paying attention to the coordination of jin and yi, strong defense of the body, and good results in keeping the body healthy. Speaking of the characteristics of attack, of course there is "defense in attack, attack in defense".

-- I think this is applicable to all styles of xingyiquan, isn't it?

Yang: With respect to fighting, each teacher has his own way of teaching. Each student also has his own way of learning. It's different from person to person.

-- Xingyiquan's foundational santi stance is very important. I've heard that perfecting standing in santi requires a few years time. Is that right?

Yang: This is not necessarily true; each person is different. Santishi is a very effective posture for fighting. Santi is "Heaven Earth Man" which relates to santishi's defense of hands protecting the face, elbows protecting the belly, knees protecting the lower body. Other than santishi, xingyiquan has a lot of other important things, such as "water carrying" stance, etc.

-- Speaking of "water carrying" stance, it can be said it's a signature move of Che style xingyiquan. What are some of the similarities with santishi?

Yang: There's nothing especially different between the two, but in utilization there is some difference.

-- Does Che style xingyiquan train iron sand palm?

Yang: Of course. We train both internal and external gongfu.

-- What's Che style xingyiquan's elementary gongfu?

Yang: First is ya tui (pressing legs) and ti tui (kicking), then studying "Yi Gu Jing", to stretch tendons and bones.

-- Is it difficult?

Yang: No, it's very simple, just like tongzi gong (kid's gong fu). Practicing this enables your joints to be more pliable and tough during movement and makes your tendons and bones more smooth and extended. If your tendons and bones aren't open and flexible, then even if you study with great effort, you won't have good results. After achieving these basics, then you can study the santishi posture, the five element fists, and study power. After that you can practice the body methods of the 12 animals, two person drills, solo forms like zashichui, etc. There are also the 5 elements, 12 animals transformations as well.

The highest level of technique is no technique. The highest level of xingyiquan is to unify and harmonize the nervous system.

-- Can you tells us some specific examples of practice?

Yang: If you want to learn real gongfu, you must have rigorous, systematic, and correct training. There is no quick and easy trick to it.

-- I don't know if my understanding is correct or not, but I feel that xinyi liuhequan stresses using the middle joint (elbow) and root joint (shoulder) whereas xingyiquan uses the end joint (fist, palm) more?

Yang: Let's say we're facing off against someone. If we want to use the power of the upper root joint, it's rather difficult. It's easier to use the end joint to attack. However, in reality, you should always defend against your opponent's attack while at the same time attacking your opponent. If you only issue strength from your end joint, but your middle joint and root joint aren't coordinated with it, or vice versa, that won't work. None of them are isolated - when attacking and defending, everything is one integral whole.

-- Guo Yunshen (from Hebei) style's specialty is the half step bengquan. What is Che style's representative move?

Yang: Guo Yunshen's half step beng quan was the result of his diligent training, arduous training, and intensive study of Li Luoneng's teachings. With this technique he defeated many people, and proved that his gongfu was very high. But his teacher, Li Luoneng, told him that, "No matter how trained, it cannot compare to your shixiong Che Yizhai". Unconvinced, Guo Yunshen made a special trip to Taigu and compared skills with his shixiong, Che Yizhai. After losing, he was thoroughly convinced.

-- So, when Che Yizhai and Guo Yunsen compared skills, what techniques were used?

Yang: In regards to Che Yizhai, he had well-rounded attack and defense, so Guo Yunshen had a hard time applying his attacks. No matter what attack he used, the result was the same - he was unable to even touch Che Yizhai's clothes. After discussion, Guo Yunshen was overjoyed and truly convinced.

In speaking of their techniques, the instant that Guo struck with a right beng quan, Che Yizhai sealed up everything above Guo's right elbow - that is, the middle joint and the root joint. He was unable to apply anything. After the comparison of skills, Che told Guo, "Technique can't beat strength, strength can't beat gong, gong can't beat artistry, artistry can't beat spiritual."

There's another story told about that time. The first time Guo Yunshen visited Che Yizhai, Che's top disciple (Li Fuzhen) asked to accept the challenge. But Che Yizhai did not agree because Li Fuzhen was a cruel and merciless person. Li's attacks were vicious, and Che Yizhai was afraid that Guo Yunshen would suffer injury. In the end, Guo Yunshen was completely convinced of and deeply admired Che Yizhai's skill. He stayed in Taigu for over a year to learn from Che Yizhai.


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[to be continued...]